Next-gen and mini Axoloti hardware discussion


#62

don't get me wrong, i don't want to make axoloti act like bela. i am super happy that axoloti works the way it does. i have currently a 5 axoloti live setup and it rocks!!

but i don't know of any other hardware that does what bela does at this sub 1ms latency! and since i love puredata and this enables me to translate a patch into pure c that is just golden. i would sure be glad if you could point me to similar hardware :slight_smile:


#63

"Hold on let me SSH into my synthesizer." - Nerds of the future


#64

that is actually exactly what you do with BELA :slight_smile:


#65

and Zynthian, and Organelle, and Norns... probably some others, also.


#66

yes indeed. the future is now!


#67

Other hardware / software that does what bela does it's called ELK: https://www.mindmusiclabs.com/ I tried some "smart amps" running that and it was pretty amazing. It will have support for puredata too.
I like that it felt like hardware and its easy to use out of the box and it can run also VST plugins, not just Lv2


#68

nice! but vst support would be for linux vsts only as far as i can see, which shrinks the plugin count considerably


#69

I for one fully support the ongoing development of a better, faster axoloti hardware device.

My regular axoloti is hella fun to program and use. The memory limitations have been on my mind since I first tried making larger patches that weren't doing a ton sonically but still used lots of memory.

I'll be staying tuned for updates and helping if I can!


#70

Will it be compatible with the axocontrol?

https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/axoc/


#71

@a773 It will certainly be compatible at a theoretical software and hardware level. It's not going to be directly compatible at a mechanical level though because the new board is shaped differently. It's significantly smaller than the main section of the original core. The IO test points are necessarily laid out differently to fit into that smaller space.

I'm guessing that there will be a straightforward way to attach the new core to the bottom of the existing axo control and make it work. We could even design a physical adapter if there is enough demand. I don't have an axo control on hand to test at the moment. If someone wants to send me one, I will look into making it work as smoothly as possible.


#72

Here's a quick teaser render of the layout I'm working on. More details to come.


#73

looks great! thanks again


#74

how is din midi integrated? i mean of course no connectors, but are the 5 points of the original axoloti there so that i could theoretically use a broken off midi part of an axoloti? would external power then also work?


#75

MIDI DIN will work as a breakout, either with the old core section or with a new breakout that will stack on top. That IO is exposed. There's also a Vin pin that can be used for external power. It's a good idea to make the breakable midi/power portion of the original core "just work." I think I might need to reshuffle a couple of test points to make that work, but it shouldn't be a problem. Something like this:


#76

More to scale:


#77

To keep things simple, I'd just use the ubld.it MIDI board.


#78

Any standard MIDI breakout like this will work just fine.

Another thing: I'm going to get the USB hub support patch in so hosting several USB MIDI controllers will work smoothly.


#79

ou yeah! that is good news


#80

@urklang - I wonder if you've figured out your price for these?
While Johannnes' board are sometimes unavailable, the price is very attractive.


#81

I don't have a final price yet, but I don't expect to charge more than the existing core. How low we can go depends on demand.