Anyone use a touchscreen yet? Multi-touch? What Os?

#1

Hello there.

I just ordered the Core device last night and i am already scheming ways to make this a synth i want to use everyday and that won't do just one thing. So i am thinking of having a cheap used Touch-screen Tablet computer running Win7, 8, or 10 mounted in the case dedicated to running the Axoloti editing software.

Has anyone tried this software with a touchscreen device? Was it Multi-touch and did that work? If so what os? I know that the Nord Modular software had problems with touch-screens and bamboo pads.

Second, has anyone been able to run this software on an iPad with a Java running app? or Android? I have a first Gen iPad in an Alesis I-O Dock that would be great to integrate into a case as the editing machine but i figure that might be too much to ask.

#2

I think its a good idea to split two 'usages' , as they have different solutions/options.

a) running/controlling/selecting patches
this requires no java, and communication can be done via midi etc.
so things like an iPad or any other control surface could work

b) editing/creating patches
you need a java environment, so that rules out an iPad, but presumably not android.
you also need to be able to compile that patch and upload it, not impossible on an android but may be slow, and take work.
touch screen should work, but there is no specific support, so like most applications its going to be like using a tablet i.e single touch , a bit 'mouse like' - but wont have multi touch or many gestures. (other than those supplied by the underlying OS).
to get such support would require someone develops it (Im not likely to get a surface any time soon, I don't know about johannes)

note: im also not sure of the current support in Java and Windows 10 of multi touch, but that will be something who plans to implement it to investigate :wink:

one final point, personally, Id say without explicit support, a touch screen might be a bit 'fiddly' in particular dragging the connections around which are pretty small, for touch screen you'd probably want something with smart 'connections' , and also an integrated zoom function. (the later may be part of the OS, so might already work)

anyway, just thoughts, would be interesting to hear from users than have tried... it may be Im being a bit too conservative, and it works fine as is.

btw @cube48 showed a nice video of SunVox working on a touch screen, which is not very different...
see this thread : https://sebiik.github.io/community.axoloti.com.backup/t/raspberry-pi-zero-axo-masterkeyboard-display/705/7

#3

While it doesn't run Java, the first gen iPad works great as a controller if you connect it to the Axoloti Core with the camera connector kit. The Lemur app still supports iOS 5.x https://liine.net/en/products/lemur/.

#4

Doing just that :wink: can't part from my 1gen iPad so best use it!

Even with parameter feedback.

#5

Yeah i run Lemur on all my iPads and was thinking about making a custom controller for the Axoloti. As it is I think i will install an iTouch 2nd gen running Lemur as a small controller if i can get some sort of connection. Most likely a wireless through the lemur daemon on the computer running the editor too since USB-midi was never implemented on that gen of iTouch.

#6

yeah that Lemur daemon...

I did some, not exhaustive search as to what app could be use "hardwired" to Axoloti;
S1MidiTrigger still can do a good job! added bonus of supporting Line6 Midi Mobilizer, so one can go straight to MIDI Din.

#7

Thanks for the quick answers.

I was thinking of something like the SunVox, or maybe a smaller version of the NeKo from Open labs, or the Korg Kronus. That I can take to cafes or gigs and lessons

I have an old telephone pad0-9 unit that sends patch-bank-lsb-msb over 5-pin din and it kind of looks like the pad on a Fairlight so that is getting integrated for “standalone” play so that might be the visual theme of all black and white, but I KINDA WANT Nord Red.

But I may go portable practical and put it in a Pelican case or an old Samsonite that can fold open with touchscreen on the top case cover like a laptop screen and all the controls on the horizontal surface.

I have a few other nice parts to stir into the stew. I have the guts to an old Oberhiem PerfX Drummer for some auto rhythm, a 12 trigger to midi out drum converter, an Arturia beatstep (regular), small midi keys, an iTouch running Lemur, and a couple midi merges and routers.

I figure these plus some slick looking long throw sliders or contact ribbons to top it off should great overkill and the tablet that is editing with the Axoloti Software can serve some other basic functions...maybe a simple Lemur like prorgam or a smallish Daw like FLstudio. I found a good 1900-1200 res tablet for 100 bucks so that should be enough detail to move the blocks even on a 9 inch screen and i am ok with one finger at a time.

#8

Oh and my VERY scant research shows that multi-touch support for Java started in 2008 under Win7, not that it settles things until i test it...but promising.

#9

I notice that this topic is over a year old so I wondered does anyone have any experiences to share using the patcher with Windows 10 on a touchscreen PC tablet?

It was hinted at in other posts but someone must have tried it by now?

#10

yes, ive tried it on a windows 10 tablet.
it works, but honestly, you really need to supplement it with a keyboard...

we will need to move to javaFX to get windows tablet support we already partially use javaFX, so that is a possibility, but means moving further in that direction.

#11

@thetechnobear

Thanks for the response - I'll give it a whirl!